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My boss is going to drive me crazy! She was today, once again bemoaning how this country is doomed to death and destruction since our new President was elected. She firmly believes that Sadam Hussein was in bed with Al Qaida in planning 9-11; that Hussein had large stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction and that we found them; that 95% of all Iraquis killed in the war have been terrorists; that only Guantanamo and Bush's policies have protected us against further devastating terrorist attacks (now ineveitable); that it is sometimes necessary to ignore the Constitution to protect our country and it's freedoms; that we have never tortured anyone.

On the last I had something to concretely weigh against that: Susan J. Crawford, the Bush administration apointee in charge of prosecutions at Guantanamo, the person who dropped charges against the "20th hijacker" al-Qahtani, has admitted we tortured him. However, she wants to see something in writing "not from a far left leaning source" before she will believe Crawford actually said it. And by "far left leaning source" she means such sources as NPR, ABC, CBS, AP.
And anything by any news source outside the country is inherently unreliable, as the whole world hates America and lies about us.

Date: 2009-01-22 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com
Sad thing about that admission... I've seen folks suggesting it was a trap.

If the only thing we're holding al-Qahtani on is fruits from a poisoned tree, then we have nothing to hold him on. We'd probably be legally bound to release him.

So, it's been suggested that Crawford was saying this to try to force Obama to dirty himself, holding someone based upon information obtained through torture.

But I think Obama might fox them... he might just say "we're creating a POW camp, in accordance with the Geneva conventions" and hold them, not as criminals, but as hostiles. It means giving them a lot of amenities, but, so what? So what if they can form a couple of soccer teams, or get some scrip money they can use to buy chocolates or books and magazines? What matters is making sure they're not dangerous.

Date: 2009-01-22 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
I think this calls for fighting fire with fire. When she starts in on that, demand HER sources, and refuse to accept anything from a "far-right-leaning source" such as Faux News, Limbaugh, Hannity, or National Review because they aren't legitimate or credible. It won't change her mind, but it may at least get her to STFU.

Date: 2009-01-22 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbrim.livejournal.com
I do ask for cites, and she says she'll come up with some, but never does. There really is no point in trying to discuss this kind of stuff with her, because obviously we don't live in the same universe, but sometimes I hear the things she says and I just can't help trying to set things straight. OTOH, she tells me if I would just get more viewpoints (like Chris Dodd and Rush Limbaugh and Fox News) I would better understand the world. I try to tell her I know what they're saying; they're just wrong, but that gets us nowhere.

It gets hard to maintian my happy mood about regaining our country when I am surrounded by people mourning the loss of their savior, Bush and the arrival of the Anti-Christ.

Date: 2009-01-22 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
Well, my next recommendation is that you pointedly mark every significant date that goes by without a terrorist attack, starting with Obama's first month in office. Then every month after that, Memorial Day, the 4th of July, Sept. 11, Veterans' Day, even Pearl Harbor Day. Oh, and major Muslim holidays too.

If it were me, I'd take a cue from this website, and make a sign that could be updated and reposted as necessary.

THE DATE IS {date}. (holiday name if appropriate)
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA HAS BEEN IN OFFICE FOR ___ DAYS.
THERE HAS BEEN NO TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICA, AND CIVILIZATION HAS SIGNALLY FAILED TO COLLAPSE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN.

Then you can just post it prominently in your office, rather than wasting your time arguing with these loons.

Date: 2009-01-23 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbrim.livejournal.com
Oh, I like that! I even have a white board in my office not being used.

Date: 2009-01-22 10:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
Whoa...talk about the Queen of De'nial...

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